The Top Guys
A pop culture podcast. Devon Sanders, Chris James Scott, and Omar K. Mills discuss what is best in life.
The Top Guys
Jared Leto and Other Randomness
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This week on Top Guys, we kick things off with the big news: Jared Leto cast as Skeletor in the upcoming He-Man movie. We’ve got thoughts.
From there, things go exactly where you’d expect—and nowhere you’d predict. We dive into toy nostalgia (because of course we do), talking Transformers, and somehow spiral into reflections on the pandemic and how it reshaped everything from collecting to just… being human.
Pull up a chair and hang out with us.
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SPEAKER_04Yes. Okay. Um, yeah, man, as you please, as you were saying, Devon, you were like, he leaned into the role. He leaned my He-Man.
SPEAKER_01Um, like he actually put the whole thing.
SPEAKER_04Oh, bruh, get that mic up in there because I need to hear all the dulce Devon too. All right. You can hear me, right? Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01Uh, just the fact that he leaned into the role, full makeup, full bodysuit, uh, cartoon comic, excuse me, uh toy accurate, like, depiction. Like, no weirdness like he did with the Joker. It's just, it's like you wouldn't know that that was Jared Leto unless they told you it was Jared Leto in the costume. And they are going out of their way to not remind anybody that it is Jared Leto. Yeah, exactly. Jared Leto is Skeletor. It's just Skeletor. Don't ask. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Just what happen what happened with Jared Leto? What is why why is he not loved? He started a cult. Wait, what? Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_04Okay, man, I'm old.
SPEAKER_01And and I don't know things. Grew beard, let his hair grow long, and thought he was Jesus, and no joke. He started his own little cult. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04How do I how do I not know these things?
SPEAKER_01Because you don't care enough for your grown ass, man. You want to put these things, man. Listen, I will take that compliment.
SPEAKER_04I will take that compliment at his expense. You are not a thin gladly, happily.
SPEAKER_01You are not a thin white woman.
SPEAKER_04So you just wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Started a good person. Like to what end? To his own vanity?
unknownHuh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because I mean you can. I mean, why not? You know, it's like you're Jared Leto and you're in a rock band. What is it? 30 Seconds to Mars? I think it is. That's his band? Yeah, that's his band. I know nothing.
SPEAKER_04I know nothing, Jon Snow. I really don't know things. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01Man, you're a handsome guy, and it's like, what am I gonna do with this? Pray on women. Yeah. No, I'm just gonna pray on women. That's what he did. Amazingly, I I'm still kind of blown by the fact that at one point Omar and I were walking the halls of the same high school with him.
SPEAKER_04That's blowing my mind as well. That I like literally had no idea he went to the school. Yeah. And didn't until what? When did you tell me this? This year.
SPEAKER_01I think it was like our last taping or something.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you were like, we went to school with Geraletto, and I was like, That man's the problem.
SPEAKER_01DC or Maryland? No, he he apparently moved around a lot with his him and his mother. I think he had a brother or two. And they plopped down in DC for about a year, and I think that he went to Wilson for all of maybe two semesters.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01That's gross. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. That explains. Like, what year would we have been when he was?
SPEAKER_01We'd have been, I want to say we'd have been juniors. When the dinosaurs roamed the end of the room.
SPEAKER_04Yes, yes, exactly. You know, when the dinosaurs roamed. But if we were juniors, I know I now know why I didn't, I wouldn't have known. Well, it wasn't a big deal. I was so caught up, man, with Annel, I would I knew nothing else. Chris, one day I'm gonna have to tell you the nail story.
SPEAKER_01It's an awesome story. Come on, deep lore. I even know the soundtrack to the story. He does know the soundtrack.
SPEAKER_04All right, so let me let me give a PSA on this. Yeah, if I if I may, if you all will indulge me here on this for for a moment. Children, those of you who who are, you know, just listen, I it's I I don't I don't know what your what your thinking is on this. You know, if you like anybody, let me just cover the whole spectrum. Whoever you like, if you are interested in someone, do not write a song about them. Don't do it. I don't care who it is. Every woman I have ever written a song about, the relationship has failed.
SPEAKER_02And the sad thing is, I'm a musician who has put music out for mass consumption. There are songs I have written about women I like that are you can go on iTunes and get. And I am not with them. Learn from your uncle.
SPEAKER_04Learn from Omar.
SPEAKER_01Learn from Omar from Robin Thick.
SPEAKER_02Robin Thick is the only reason why you don't have me top of the list. He took the larger L. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Wrote a whole album after he cheated and called it Ola. Like that's a new level of That's a new level. I mean, hey, if you're gonna write a song about somebody else's woman, be Eric Clappin. Or Billy Paul. Me and Mrs. Jones. Oh wow.
SPEAKER_04Listen, just don't do it like I do it.
SPEAKER_01Don't do it.
SPEAKER_04Just don't do it. Yeah, don't do it at all. You know, how I did it or otherwise. But yeah, Chris, at that time, I was very much in like love, lust with a nail.
SPEAKER_01You were infatuated. Infatuated being.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, with this human being. The uh the let's see, I I met her sophomore year. And we that summer between sophomore and junior year got my nerve up and asked her to go bowling. And Devon, I don't know if I know if I ever told you a story. Did I ever tell you that she and I went bowling and like her dad and her brother decided to come? What? Yeah. What? Her father and her brother went bowling with us. Dad was like, oh, you going out with my daughter? Yeah, we all gonna go bowling. Let's all how about we all go? I'll drive.
SPEAKER_01The whole male bloodline said.
SPEAKER_04The whole all of them. Watch me. I'm 16 at the bowling alley with her, her brother, and her dad bowling.
SPEAKER_01Damn. And now my-mama to balance it out.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, mom didn't balance it out. It's just me holding the L. And you remember, Devon, we went to the very next year, we went to homecoming. You could not tell me nothing. I had a new suit. I don't, you know, I'm going like this thing is gonna work. I wrote a song.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_04Damn it. I'm at homecoming with a senior. I'm a junior. You could tell me nothing.
SPEAKER_01Wait, she was a year ahead of us?
SPEAKER_04She was a year ahead of us.
SPEAKER_01Oh, wow. I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_04Fun fact. Went out with her again. This is how deep the lore is. I don't even think you know this one, Devon. The last time I saw her, we went out. This was 91. Okay. What year did Boomerang come out?
SPEAKER_0191.
SPEAKER_0491. We went, took her to see Boomerang. That's the last time I saw her. 1991.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna make that work.
SPEAKER_04One way or another. Never worked. Never worked. Do not write songs about anyone.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_04If you want it to work out. Just just how about you just go out with them?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You don't have to write music. You don't have to do all that. No. Visual. In my defense, I did not start a cult or a band. Well done. It's still talking.
SPEAKER_01Excuse me. I'm just gonna step away and get something to drink.
SPEAKER_04Oh man. Chris, but yeah, like while Devon is doing that, man, I am deeply excited about it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I like the fact that he uh it's funny, I'm going to say a positive about Jared Leto. How about that?
SPEAKER_03How about that?
SPEAKER_01Um he had two choices to make with his Skeletour. Oppenheimer, Langela. He went Langela. And I think that is the correct choice in a live action format.
SPEAKER_04I 100% agree. Let me ask you this relative to Skeletor, because the his y'all may know more about this than I do. The my understanding about the the way, the canon, if you will, of He-Man literature is there were these booklets that would come with the toys.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And so the original thinking on He-Man was mind you, from who owns them now? Mattel? Who owned them back in the day? Mattel, Mattel, Mattel Day that they are they okay, so they've always owned them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Their whole thing was we could give a damn, we just need to sell these toys. We're trying to get this back. So the booklets, and I just remember this from being a kid, but way before they had a TV show or cartoon to sell more toys. When you would get, if you could get a He-Man toy back in the day, because you couldn't, like it was impossible you could find, you know, a Mechanic, but you weren't gonna find He-Man at Toys R Us, right? So goddamn Mechanic. Yeah, Mechaneck. You know, I had several of those. You know, He-Man, you it's like God forbid, the arms turn loose, you know, where they don't, they're not, they don't hold their positioning any longer because you didn't play with it too much. You ain't gonna find another one. You just stuck with the He-Man that didn't work. But anyway, they would come with these booklets.
SPEAKER_02And in the booklet, He-Man, there was no, like there was Castle Gray Skull, but he was just always He-Man. There was no Prince Adam. Prince Adam, I think, came with the show.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04He would hit He-Man got his abilities. Well, I don't even know if I would say it's from Gray Skull as much as it was the gear he wore. He was always just like jacked, but like his harness that he would wear had some magic to it, and the sword was split. Like Skeletor had half of the power sword, right? And then you'd put it together, and that became a key that would unlock Gray Skull. So they were battling for the other half of the sword. But when the show came out, it was just always He-Man's sword, and he was at him. And I'm like, this ain't what was in the booklets. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So one of these things I I assume I wasn't there. I got like fifth run He-Man reruns. Uh 85.
SPEAKER_04Got fair, fair. You know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01What I understand about it though, is it's probably because certain things work better for a toy line, i.e., skeleton he-Man having two halves of the sword to open Gray Skull. We need an incentive to get these little bastards to buy the fucking castle. So you know what? Keep talking. I have a book that I want to recommend to you both. Oh, nice. And and like for the show, yeah, you you you require different things because there's not a lot of juice in that particular lemon squeeze. So we got the Clark Kent angle.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because we can sell now, we can sell Adam too. Yeah, we can sell Adam. I got you. Yep.
SPEAKER_01And then like subsequently, Skeletor becoming his uncle.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay, so that's what I wanted to ask you about. Like, the now, that obviously did not come about until they did the the re-up. And I want to say this would have been 2011. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Quiet is kept.
SPEAKER_042011. No. When did that one come out? When they with the Keldor.
SPEAKER_01That is 2002.
SPEAKER_04Wow. Okay. You know what I'm confusing it with? The Thundercats did a re-up as well. And I want to say that was that's one of 2011. That's what I'm thinking of. All right, so when they did Quiet as Is Kept, man, that re-up on He-Man, I don't think it got more than a handful of episodes, but I want to say.
SPEAKER_01It got like a significant amount of episodes. I have them all on DVD. You're talking about it. Like you play like a full season? From the early 2000s?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that actually had like two seasons.
SPEAKER_04Oh man, so alright, I know what I'm gonna be doing later today. Uh, because I I I've only seen, I want to say maybe like the first three episodes are all continuous on that, if I'm not mistaken, right? Where you you get into how there are, it's almost kind of like an anime style, I just I'm vaguely remembering this. Anime-esque style fight scene between He-Man and Skeletor that rival what we were seeing like in Japanese anime or you know, or things like it was so but the I just I think I've seen the first three episodes of it and it they were fantastic, and I don't know why that didn't hold. Because it was just the the it rivals Castlevania to me in terms of the way that it was animated, you know, and how well they did it in terms of the the fighting scenes.
SPEAKER_01I can actually answer that question. Sorry, which what you got, brethren? It's around here somewhere, but I can't find it. I got two. Oh, 39 episodes to be exact. Holy cow.
SPEAKER_04They wait a minute. The the run for the original show was a maybe about sixty-five.
SPEAKER_01No one hundred sixty sixty-five. Damn.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Good lord. Okay, so not it does not touch that. Nothing, nothing does. Nothing. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh but Devon, but 39 operation. Oh, yeah. The reason why it didn't actually last was because the toy line wasn't selling the way that they wanted it to. So we go back to like the toy line was incredible. It was actually like designed by the four horsemen. And they were like four incredible sculptors, and they made like different body types for the action figures, and they were all gorgeous. Like they were kind of angular.
SPEAKER_04Just like the animation. Like they looked okay, I'm I'm tracking. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Um, but unfortunately, it was kind of caught in a weird place where excuse me. Where Gen X collectors weren't really out there buying toys the way that they were before. Right. And young kids didn't really know what the hell the property was, despite the thing even being on Cartoon Network.
SPEAKER_03Like never took over.
SPEAKER_01It was just like kind of stuck in this like sort of nowhere place. So since the toys weren't selling, Cartoon Network just kind of looked at it and just went, yeah, well, we got this niche demographic. We're gonna help, we're gonna pull the plug, along with it was a mutual decision between them and Mattel. But I was uh gonna recommend this book to you called uh what is it called? It's by Box Brown. He actually has been at Box Brown! Yeah, he's been at Small Press Expo a lot. It's called the He-Man Effect, How American Toy Makers Sold Your Childhood. Wow. Highly recommended. Yeah, I need that. If you want to know. Yeah, I'll I'll send you a uh a text on what the actual book is later. But yeah, if you want to know why we got the things that we got in the 80s, dude perfectly explains it. And it's beautifully drawn too. Like in a full time.
SPEAKER_03I definitely want to see that.
SPEAKER_01Sort of like almost like clout like Steven Universe type art style. Yeah. Really good stuff.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Yeah. And wait a minute, and this is just he's like published it himself?
SPEAKER_01I think it's through first, second, but yeah, he's like an indie publisher.
SPEAKER_04I love it.
SPEAKER_01Indie comic book.
SPEAKER_05Makes me want to support it even more. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, he does a whole bunch of stuff, and I think his latest book is on the He-Man effect, but he's also done books on cannabis, Tetris, and Giant. Yeah. His Andre the Giant. I ain't lying. I read that book and I cried, man. Yep. Wow. Ride. Okay. I did. It's a it's a beautiful book, but he does really good stuff. Yeah, shockingly, he hasn't done a new book in three years. Because he's usually like got something like every once a year, every every year. But yeah, E-Man effect. Really good book.
SPEAKER_05Okay. I was definitely able to check that out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01A third perspective I'd like to offer on why that E-Man early 2000s line didn't take off as a like a pretty hardcore collector at the time. Those toys, while the sculpts were excellent, like they all were beautiful, every single one. They had no articulation. Exactly. I was gonna say they were more like statues. They they moved their arms. Even when they they canceled the line, they had unused designs that they put out, and they were basically build as statues because they had no articulation. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I did not want that stuff. I like I was like, that skeletor looks sick. I can't move him. He like he got he got one leg joint, one arm joint, one head joint. That's it. That's what you get. Yeah, they were gorgeous. Matter of fact, I got a bunch in my closet, too. You see over my head right here. Big old skeletor back there.
SPEAKER_04Wait a minute, is that one of the ones? No. Okay, that's just okay.
SPEAKER_01It's an expensive ass Mondo one six scale figure.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01Um, I do not recommend it. They do not move the best. I don't know if their articulation and and techniques have improved in the two years since I've had this figure, but it's very beautiful on my shelf, and that is where it will remain. I've you know, I dust him and I pose him, and that's it. It's not fun to manipulate at all.
SPEAKER_04That's got me thinking, like, if you're gonna have a like because everything you've said about you all have said about this toy line is that it's it's beautiful, that it's wonderful to look at. Devon, you just like, yeah, I got some you know in storage, you know, probably still in the packaging, right? I'm thinking that you were just okay, so you did okay, you did have them out. What was the price point? Because if you have something that you can't pose and it costs a lot, and Gen X ain't buying it.
SPEAKER_01This was 2002, so they weren't super expensive. 1015? Yeah, about 1415, right? Like he said, huh? Unlike now, it's like I'm back into collecting the current G.I. Joe's, the G.I. Joe classified. Um, Marvel Legends, the price point is $27.99 now. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. And I can almost justify that with the GI Joe ones because they come with so many cool things. They do.
unknownTons.
SPEAKER_04What do those run? About the same price? So it's the G.I. Joe, they're kind of the Marvel Legends.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Hasbro.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01Current price point for all their action purposes about $27.99.
SPEAKER_04I'm assuming that they have Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow.
SPEAKER_01Oh, God, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm like, yeah, you're not gonna do a G.I. Joe without the two of them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Which Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow do you want? Do you want to snake eyes? Do you want Nightman Snake Eyes? Yeah. Do you want a 1990s Deke cartoon Storm Shadow with the hoodie and like the black mask?
SPEAKER_04Oh, I ain't a oh wow, they got it. Oh, it's like that.
SPEAKER_01You can pick.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh, oh, oh, what the what the what the timber?
SPEAKER_04Oh man, man. All right, how much more they charge you for that one? Because it comes with timber, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01So it was like I think the suggested retail price was like 50, but I think I got it for 35.
SPEAKER_04That's not bad.
SPEAKER_01No, not bad.
SPEAKER_04It's doesn't come in with that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, this is uh okay.
SPEAKER_04So obviously we're gonna have Cobra Commander. Oh, yo, that's ridiculous. Good lord.
SPEAKER_01Wait, does he come with like the freaking thing?
SPEAKER_04Can he come with a with a neck gator or something? You know, with a with a scarf?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Come on, pro-Palestine snake eyes.
SPEAKER_04Hold up, man. Mind you, the scarf is dope. Yeah. Why does Snake Eyes need a scarf? I ain't mad that he got it. Shut up, Omar. That's why. That's fair. That is the correct answer. I'm gonna start wearing a scarf.
SPEAKER_06In the summer.
SPEAKER_04In the summer. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Be out there looking at the water. And give that response.
SPEAKER_02Why you wearing the scarf? Hey, shut up. How about that?
SPEAKER_01Why you it's a whole lot of worrying about what I'm doing. I know. We're about yourself. Don't worry about me. We're about yourself.
SPEAKER_04Oh man. Chris, I'm surprised you do not, and I'm assuming you don't have these. The transformers that you can speak to and they transform.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna tell you why I don't have those, Omar. It's real simple. Because one cost the amount of my rent andor mortgage.
SPEAKER_02Wait, how much are those things?
SPEAKER_01Between $1,000 and $1,500. Wait, what? I don't need to spend that.
SPEAKER_04No. I just assume that because I'm seeing all these social media influencers with them. And they have, but I'm forgetting that they have money to be able to do it. Yeah. More than more than that.
SPEAKER_01I've been unemployed for over a year. I ain't spent no money.
SPEAKER_04No, that's more than fair.
SPEAKER_01That talk and do it by themselves. What the hell? What's the point of buying a toy if it's gonna play with itself? What the hell?
SPEAKER_02That's a fair point.
SPEAKER_01Go find you a partner.
SPEAKER_02That's fair. I can't be mad at it. Come on now. Oh man.
SPEAKER_01Also, my wife would kill me if I bought one of those damn things. Like you spent what on what? Yeah, that yeah, that's that's a house payment, you dumbass. Yeah, for real.
SPEAKER_04If you were gonna get one though, which one would you get?
SPEAKER_01Grimlock.
SPEAKER_04Okay. You know what? I shouldn't even need to ask that. That that's that's on brand. I don't know why I would I don't know why Optimus Prime was first, but yeah, Grimlock, that's that's you all day.
SPEAKER_01Here's the thing. I have so many Optimus Prime. I believe I have 22 Optimus Prime figures on display right now in some shape or fashion. I don't need any more Optimus Prime toys. I don't. Grimlock, however, I got two Grimlocks. I got I got IDW mid-2010s comic book Grimlock, and I got classic Grimlock. And he got Red Guard riding on top of his head. I'm good on Grimlock. I got my representations down. But if somebody gave me an automatically transforming Gremlock, it would not go unnoticed.
SPEAKER_04Fair.
SPEAKER_01Now I'm saying that don't do that.
SPEAKER_04Don't do that, but you say if you did, yeah, because when you're talking 1500 bucks, that that's yeah.
SPEAKER_01Give me that money.
SPEAKER_04Give you the money.
SPEAKER_01Because I can make that stretch.
SPEAKER_04More than fair. Facts. Yeah, that's a fact. That's more than fair. What's your take, Chris, on Galvatron? I mean, I'm curious because okay, let me let me set it up. Let me give you some some context. Yeah, first. I love Megatron. Sure. Megatron is my favorite.
SPEAKER_01He's the best.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And I'm to this day, this is this is the like tell me you're a Gen X child without telling me you're a Gen X child. Megatron, the original die-cast metal toy was a gun.
SPEAKER_02Like it's an actual, you transformed it. It was a gun you could walk around like I could stick you up. No, you can't.
SPEAKER_04Black man. No, you can't. I could try. I'd be podding from jail. Potting from hell. You know, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I'd be in hell talking about, man, it's I got my scarf on, even though it's warm down here. Don't worry about why I'm wearing it. You know, I'll see you when you get here. Damn it. Right? But I had this. My mama bought me Megatron that turned into a gun. Gen X. Yeah. Go ahead, Devon. You gonna say something? No, no.
SPEAKER_01I was just damn.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, damn, damn indeed. But here's the thing like I love that toy. And I think I think the thing that won me over with Megatron was the voice actor. Because I think that voice actor for Megatron did multiple, well, they all did in those days. Like if you were on Transformers.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I would say they did like some Scooby-Doo.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like fantastic. Right? So I think the voice won me over. And so when they when, mind you. Much respect to Leonard Nimoy. I'm never gonna be mad about Galvatron and Leonard Nimoy. But when they changed it, it's essentially ceased to be Megatron, and I was sad. Although I was very happy that Starscream got him, because I felt like that was a twist I wasn't expecting. You know, on that. But curious to know what your take is on Galvatron and that whole switch from Megatron.
SPEAKER_01Well, you actually a bit wrong when you say that when it wasn't Leonard Nymore, because obviously Lennon Nymore wasn't gonna keep doing his voice on the on the show. They couldn't afford that. It was actually kind of still Megatron because it was Frank Welker that took over. Are you serious?
SPEAKER_04I did not know that.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah, he's crazy traumatic brain injury Galvatron in the show. But yeah, that was absolutely still Frank Welker. Um my take on Galvatron is it largely depends on what media you are consuming that Galvatron is in. Whereas in the comics, sometimes he's been portrayed as like like a you know, like a like a zealot offshoot, you know, like like how Red Skull was like, yo, he's too Nazi for the Nazis, you know, that kind of that kind of deal. And then there's sometimes where Galvatron is like his, he can, he's older than like the oldest characters that you know. Like he goes back to like the Nova Prime days, the the original 13 primes days. Like he's he's old as hell. And he hates what has become of our race, and he's he seeks unification. We gotta we gotta clean this up by you know a genocide. You know, uh, but Gavatron rules like as a design, like he rules. He's like he's he's hyper Megatron. He's got you take Megatron's helmet, it's real utilitarian, it's the bucket hat. Fuck that. Crown. Space crown. Megatron turn into a gun, bump that. I turn into a turret. Nobody uses me. I use me. Oh man. But I use the yeah, that that's I'm gonna have to figure out like that.
SPEAKER_04Should be like the title of this. Nobody uses me. I use me. Wait a minute, you got him? Of course you have him. Of course you have him. We're crowned. Space crown.
SPEAKER_01And too. And two. This is this is like a Grail purchase in particular, because it's one of the best releases from a third-party company called Fans Toys. They put out a Galvatron long time ago, mid-2010s. I was not able to get it because I did not have grown man money.
SPEAKER_04Fair.
SPEAKER_01So when this was up for sale during the pandemic for like way less than the market value, I snapped it up. I snapped it up as quickly as possible. Bring back the pandemic, man. I was getting so many deals. You know. I ain't even gonna lie. I don't, I, I, I, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You have like you have you were talking about the notes you had from the last time. Uh-huh. Talking about the pandemic. Oh, yeah. What was the quote, man, that you said about like about the pandemic that I I I want to put on a bumper sticker or a t-shirt or something?
SPEAKER_01When it was federally mandated where you had to leave my black ass alone.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. That part.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You said bring back the pandemic.
SPEAKER_01Hey, I got feelings, man. If I could go back to those, if I can go back to those times with the knowledge that I have now. Oh, hey. If I knew I didn't have to wash my boxes of cereal when they came in the house, you know, I would just be out there. I'll I'd be outside outside.
SPEAKER_04But how many how much Clorox do you think you wipes did you go through wiping down cereal boxes? That it was doing nothing.
SPEAKER_01An inappropriate amount. Yeah. It was stupid. Yeah. I remember the first time like that my ex my ex-partner and I, when she we both kind of realized that something was happening, and we went to Target. And we literally got the last like containers of hand sanitizer, not hand sanitizer, uh antibacterial wipes. And we went to one of the people in there and we were like, Do you have any more? And she just was like, There is none to be had. They're out at the warehouse. You literally are walking out of here with the last ones. As a matter of fact, I would bury them under something in your cart so that nobody has to find where you got. Put that shit under your arm. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's wow. Yeah. Trust me, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not nostalgic for the deaths and shit like that. But nah, I'm just I'm kind of nostalgic for the peace, where actually a lot of people were realizing that, hey, if we're gonna get through this, we have to do it together. And people just maybe I'm romanticizing it. I probably am, but it just seemed like people were trying to be nicer. They were going out of their way because they they didn't know if like if a sneeze could kill you. So people were just like, hey, I'm gonna give you a space. I respect you and your space. Elbow! Yeah. But you know, then as soon as people found out that it was mainly affecting the poor, people of color, and uh people who had to be outside in order to go to work. And they were like, Oh, well, I don't have diabetes, I don't have high blood pressure. Well, shit, it's affecting them. It doesn't affect me at all, really. So I'm just I'm back outside, open everything up just for me. And that's when their instincts took over. That's all I'll say.
SPEAKER_02All right, so Geraleto, Geraldto started a cult.
SPEAKER_01You know what? One more thing about Sanctor. The way they did his face, it moves like lips while he's talking. And I think that's great. Like it's it's he-man. Don't don't hang around realism on this. Exactly. Nah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Push the cartoon.
SPEAKER_04100%. I'm so excited about it, man. I I I can't wait.
SPEAKER_01First uh, first day, first week thing for you.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. With without question, I'll be I'll be in the mix. Okay. Um, you know what's wild though about that? It's uh this is something that's uh I've been adopting for the last uh couple years. It's is it's relatively new, but Devon, you and I talked about this a little bit. I think it was it's really you, I would say probably some combination of both of you that taught me this, but I think most I said probably about 70% of it, Devon, you I've got from watching you. I'm no longer gonna waste any energy saying why I don't like something. I would rather tell you what I like about a thing. And if I don't like a thing, you know, it's more like, okay, maybe that's not a thing for me. But learning, man, that it somebody somewhere, you know, now mind you, with some exceptions, there's some things, man, that are predatory that people just do because they're trying to, you know, get you know, money and that I'm trying to you know manipulate. That I'm not talking about that, but I'm talking about if somebody sat down and had an idea and had a dream and they made something, and maybe it don't land with me, I'm not going to be like that's trash. I don't it's a nah, it okay. That's not that's not for me, but here's what I like about it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, and so yeah, this is a first day, first week thing for me. And it it's where that that lesson resonated the most, and I can tell you exactly when it came up. Devon, you and I were texting, and we were talking about the new Superman movie, or what was the new Superman movie. Oh yeah, yeah. And I was like, well, I didn't like this. And you were like, Yeah, I don't care. I needed this movie. And I kept trying to go back to it, but but but what about this? You were like, Yeah, the part where I said I don't care, I don't care, I needed this movie.
SPEAKER_01He saved a baby from a black hole, Omar.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but but I had but I took issue with you. And Devon's like, yeah, I don't care about your issues with it. I remember where I was. I'm I was texting you like I'm about to watch another movie. I'm texting you from there, like, man, I saw this and here. I was like, Yeah, I let me tell you all the ways I don't care about that. I don't care about that. No, it I wasn't saying that in a mean way. I was saying I read your text in mean.
SPEAKER_01I was saying that all the things that make me a fan, a lover of the character of Superman were in that movie. Because my heart broke at the end of Man of Steel when he snapped Za's neck. Right because my Superman is constantly running the numbers. What can I do to not have the worst case scenario happen? This guy did not do that, and I was even making excuses for it. I was like, well, you get you gotta understand that basically at that point he was only Superman for maybe a month or two, so he didn't know any other ways, but then you just kind of realize this is just Dan Snyder's Superman, it's just that it comes down to that. It is you said Dan Snyder, yeah, Dan Snyder.
SPEAKER_02Dan Snyder is good, but you know what though somehow that's also correct.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's not a superman. I know he's probably backed that piece of crap. Uh and you know, it's like the Superman that I have always felt in my heart was on that screen, especially during that scene where he's fighting the kaiju in Metropolis. And he's trying not to get stamped on, he's trying not to, he's trying to evacuate the citizens, and then he just sees a squirrel, and you can just see him kind of running the numbers, like, can I do this? Can I save this squirrel while all this is going on? And yes, Superman saves the squirrel. And it's like some people were like, Well, that's corny. And I'm like, no, that's Superman. There's an inherent coriness in Superman, like that he sees the value in everything, and that's what makes him the most human of us because he sees value in all of us, even though he could, you know, I don't know if either of you have watched uh the latest uh boys episode.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Man, that scene where the legend just gives Homelander a little pat on the back and shows him maybe the first little bit of kindness, true kindness he's ever felt. Yeah. It made me go if he had just gotten more moments like that, that world may have had a Superman. Yeah, yeah. Because he let him go. Yeah, he let him go because it was right before I changed my mind. Get out of here. He was like, You're not a friend of the don't talk, just leave. And it was because he was the first person who had nothing to gain by showing him kindness. He's like, I'm gonna die. But you know what? I get why you're doing this, kid. And I wish that, you know, that little thing that he said, you're you're whacker, whack job.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But it's like he's saying it because he's like, this isn't entirely your fault. And it's like, so I understand why you're doing this. And if you you look at that scene again, Anthony Starr shit 100%.
SPEAKER_04Man, we could we could do an hour on how amazing Anthony Starr is.
SPEAKER_01Just the way when he feels that tap on the shoulder and how it affected him, and you see the way he's twitching and turning and in disbelief. Oh my god, that was like a master acting class, and I think he barely said like like 12 words after that. And yeah, it was the way he just conveyed so much in those little movements was just blew me away. Blew me away. Dude, we have done 50 minutes that we haven't even started the episode.
SPEAKER_03No, we haven't even started. Like we did a whole, you know, thing.
SPEAKER_01Man, I got notes and everything. I know I am prepared. So, which one do you want to do first? Do you want to do this was never any good? Or do you want to do two things I wish uh more people knew about first?
SPEAKER_04Oh, two things more I wish more people knew about.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But y'all gotta go first because I ain't thought about that. But I want to do that.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so you want to do first the uh two things people never knew about.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Or I is that do I have that right? Two things people never knew about? Let me let me get the exact people knew more people knew about.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Alright. Let me just go to my nose. Alright. Alright. Uh, being honored outside. Yeah, man. Something's being honored outside? Someone's being honored, they keep clapping and haranguing and shit. They're five minutes jerk let him out.
SPEAKER_00Don't ever play the Joker again. Don't ever do another try.
SPEAKER_06Like, it's Morbin time.
